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		<title>By: Mark Weiss, P.E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Weiss, P.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 03:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, 

I think you&#039;re on the right track. The government regulation distorts business activity. In order to continue to function with irrational laws, business must sometimes do nefarious things that it never would normally have to do in a purely Capitalist society. The problem is when business gets caught working around the laws and then the government says &quot;see? that proves we need to regulate MORE.&quot; Criminals are made through this kind of legislation. The more corrupt the government, the more corrupt the business dealings necessarily become. Look at the former USSR... the people there are so used to dealing with an oppressive and corrupt government that they have become like hardened criminals. They become opportunistic, looking for any chance to take unfair advantage of another party they are trading with, because they were conditioned this way through a lifetime of Communism.
As America falls further and further down the Rabbit Hole, we will see the business world increasingly in bed with government, so that it can secure its survival. It&#039;s the old &quot;if you can&#039;t beat &#039;em, join &#039;em&quot; routine. In short, corruption of economics by government breeds corruption by business. In short, that&#039;s what happened in the mortgage market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re on the right track. The government regulation distorts business activity. In order to continue to function with irrational laws, business must sometimes do nefarious things that it never would normally have to do in a purely Capitalist society. The problem is when business gets caught working around the laws and then the government says &#8220;see? that proves we need to regulate MORE.&#8221; Criminals are made through this kind of legislation. The more corrupt the government, the more corrupt the business dealings necessarily become. Look at the former USSR&#8230; the people there are so used to dealing with an oppressive and corrupt government that they have become like hardened criminals. They become opportunistic, looking for any chance to take unfair advantage of another party they are trading with, because they were conditioned this way through a lifetime of Communism.<br />
As America falls further and further down the Rabbit Hole, we will see the business world increasingly in bed with government, so that it can secure its survival. It&#8217;s the old &#8220;if you can&#8217;t beat &#8216;em, join &#8216;em&#8221; routine. In short, corruption of economics by government breeds corruption by business. In short, that&#8217;s what happened in the mortgage market.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 18:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mark

I finally started thinking like you do about two years ago when I was let go from my mortgage job. I started searching for reasons why the housing market crashed. The conclusion I came up with was the Government - Federal Reserve - did it. From there I ended up learning why our government does nothing but destroy wealth, family, etc. I kind of became a Ron Paul supporter because he is a free market kind of guy and now I know why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mark</p>
<p>I finally started thinking like you do about two years ago when I was let go from my mortgage job. I started searching for reasons why the housing market crashed. The conclusion I came up with was the Government &#8211; Federal Reserve &#8211; did it. From there I ended up learning why our government does nothing but destroy wealth, family, etc. I kind of became a Ron Paul supporter because he is a free market kind of guy and now I know why.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Weiss, P.E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Weiss, P.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 22:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brad, it&#039;s all about a small group of people wanting power over the rest of us. They convince the relatively ignorant masses (who have never been given the opportunity to learn a NON-ALTRUISTIC philosophy) that they would be better off with a nanny state, and plenty of lazy people vote for handouts. Democracies never last more than 300 years, as history has taught us, because as soon as the voters figure out that they can vote themselves a handout, it quickly becomes 51% deciding what to do with the other 49% of the people&#039;s money. Wealth redistribution.
A large part of this is to blame on religion, the big teacher of Altruism. The premise is that &#039;every man is his brother&#039;s keeper&#039; and that is used as &#039;moral&#039; justificatio of taxation/enslavement. And it IS slavery, because if you don&#039;t work for the government and pay those taxes, they will initiate force against you (take your house). There can be no freedom without the ability to own the fruits of one&#039;s labors. There&#039;s no Fourth Amendment safety if you&#039;re taxes are in arrears.
From a practical point, this can&#039;t go on in a global market, where 3rd world commerce is forcing down American wages, yet school teachers and their unions continue to get 13% annual raises and job security (they can&#039;t be fired unless they do something really bad like molest a child), while we take 10% pay cuts, layoffs, lose our 401K contributions, lose our medical, etc. And utilities double in cost every other year to the point where a family of modest means spends Christmas shivering in their own home because they had to use the heating oil money to pay the tax bill instead of buying oil. It disgusts me to no end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brad, it&#8217;s all about a small group of people wanting power over the rest of us. They convince the relatively ignorant masses (who have never been given the opportunity to learn a NON-ALTRUISTIC philosophy) that they would be better off with a nanny state, and plenty of lazy people vote for handouts. Democracies never last more than 300 years, as history has taught us, because as soon as the voters figure out that they can vote themselves a handout, it quickly becomes 51% deciding what to do with the other 49% of the people&#8217;s money. Wealth redistribution.<br />
A large part of this is to blame on religion, the big teacher of Altruism. The premise is that &#8216;every man is his brother&#8217;s keeper&#8217; and that is used as &#8216;moral&#8217; justificatio of taxation/enslavement. And it IS slavery, because if you don&#8217;t work for the government and pay those taxes, they will initiate force against you (take your house). There can be no freedom without the ability to own the fruits of one&#8217;s labors. There&#8217;s no Fourth Amendment safety if you&#8217;re taxes are in arrears.<br />
From a practical point, this can&#8217;t go on in a global market, where 3rd world commerce is forcing down American wages, yet school teachers and their unions continue to get 13% annual raises and job security (they can&#8217;t be fired unless they do something really bad like molest a child), while we take 10% pay cuts, layoffs, lose our 401K contributions, lose our medical, etc. And utilities double in cost every other year to the point where a family of modest means spends Christmas shivering in their own home because they had to use the heating oil money to pay the tax bill instead of buying oil. It disgusts me to no end.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 18:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Mark

You took it to another level. Agreed.

I get a kick out of how many cities around the country are going bankrupt because of the record amounts of foreclosures. Maybe if they did not do property taxes in the first place and privatize everything the country would be in a better place financially right now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mark</p>
<p>You took it to another level. Agreed.</p>
<p>I get a kick out of how many cities around the country are going bankrupt because of the record amounts of foreclosures. Maybe if they did not do property taxes in the first place and privatize everything the country would be in a better place financially right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Weiss, P.E.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Weiss, P.E.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Dec 2009 04:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The property tax has got to be the most immoral tax on earth.
How can a vital essential to life--particularly in cold northern climates--be considered taxable when food and some clothing is not?
The logic of taxing the home or primary domicile is one of &#039;they got you by the balls&#039; and the homeowner has no option NOT to pay, otherwise he faces a cabal of armed storm troopers bent on murdering him if he resists and chooses to protect his home for him and his family.
In effect, the property tax criminalizes low incomes and creates legalized slavery.

The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.
Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of material values.
[&quot;Man&#039;s Rights,&quot; The Virtue of Selfishness]
It is only on the basis of property rights that the sphere and application of individual rights can be defined in any given social situation. Without property rights, there is no way to solve or to avoid a hopeless chaos of clashing views, interests, demands, desires, and whims.
[&quot;The Cashing-In: The Student &#039;Rebellion,&#039;&quot; Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal]
The source of property rights is the law of causality. All property and all forms of wealth are produced by man&#039;s mind and labor. As you cannot have effects without causes, so you cannot have wealth without its source: without intelligence. You cannot force intelligence to work: those who&#039;re able to think, will not work under compulsion; those who will, won&#039;t produce much more than the price of the whip needed to keep them enslaved.
[&quot;This Is John Galt Speaking,&quot; Atlas Shrugged]

The above statements form the foundation of a free nation. Without property rights, there IS no freedom.
The property tax is partly based on stale, Marxist class-envy politics. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were so eager to destroy the successful upper and middle-class &quot;bourgeoisie.&quot; Ever since the passage of the 16th Amendment, which granted the federal government the power to directly confiscate our income -- our property -- we can own nothing to which the government cannot also lay claim, at least in part. If there is a valid argument justifying taxes levied on voluntary transactions, there is absolutely no justification for a tax that is nothing less than State-sponsored theft. Though I would be incarcerated -- and rightly so -- for walking next door and taking money out of my neighbor&#039;s wallet without his permission, the government makes this very act routine.
The property tax is immoral and oppressive and deprives citizens of their necessities of warmth and shelter. 
It is with these facts that I propose that no law enforcement agent take part in the aiding and abetting of theft of homes from people who owe no voluntary mortgage, but who may be unable, due to the expanding greed of local government, to pay the extortionist and confiscatory taxes. No moral law enforcement officer should obey an order to remove an otherwise moral and law-abiding family from their rightfully owned home for inability to pay property taxes. This should be a fundamental part of the Oath Keeper’s pledge. Property and security in one’s home is a FUNDAMENTAL American right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The property tax has got to be the most immoral tax on earth.<br />
How can a vital essential to life&#8211;particularly in cold northern climates&#8211;be considered taxable when food and some clothing is not?<br />
The logic of taxing the home or primary domicile is one of &#8216;they got you by the balls&#8217; and the homeowner has no option NOT to pay, otherwise he faces a cabal of armed storm troopers bent on murdering him if he resists and chooses to protect his home for him and his family.<br />
In effect, the property tax criminalizes low incomes and creates legalized slavery.</p>
<p>The right to life is the source of all rights—and the right to property is their only implementation. Without property rights, no other rights are possible. Since man has to sustain his life by his own effort, the man who has no right to the product of his effort has no means to sustain his life. The man who produces while others dispose of his product, is a slave.<br />
Bear in mind that the right to property is a right to action, like all the others: it is not the right to an object, but to the action and the consequences of producing or earning that object. It is not a guarantee that a man will earn any property, but only a guarantee that he will own it if he earns it. It is the right to gain, to keep, to use and to dispose of material values.<br />
["Man's Rights," The Virtue of Selfishness]<br />
It is only on the basis of property rights that the sphere and application of individual rights can be defined in any given social situation. Without property rights, there is no way to solve or to avoid a hopeless chaos of clashing views, interests, demands, desires, and whims.<br />
["The Cashing-In: The Student 'Rebellion,'" Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal]<br />
The source of property rights is the law of causality. All property and all forms of wealth are produced by man&#8217;s mind and labor. As you cannot have effects without causes, so you cannot have wealth without its source: without intelligence. You cannot force intelligence to work: those who&#8217;re able to think, will not work under compulsion; those who will, won&#8217;t produce much more than the price of the whip needed to keep them enslaved.<br />
["This Is John Galt Speaking," Atlas Shrugged]</p>
<p>The above statements form the foundation of a free nation. Without property rights, there IS no freedom.<br />
The property tax is partly based on stale, Marxist class-envy politics. Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels were so eager to destroy the successful upper and middle-class &#8220;bourgeoisie.&#8221; Ever since the passage of the 16th Amendment, which granted the federal government the power to directly confiscate our income &#8212; our property &#8212; we can own nothing to which the government cannot also lay claim, at least in part. If there is a valid argument justifying taxes levied on voluntary transactions, there is absolutely no justification for a tax that is nothing less than State-sponsored theft. Though I would be incarcerated &#8212; and rightly so &#8212; for walking next door and taking money out of my neighbor&#8217;s wallet without his permission, the government makes this very act routine.<br />
The property tax is immoral and oppressive and deprives citizens of their necessities of warmth and shelter.<br />
It is with these facts that I propose that no law enforcement agent take part in the aiding and abetting of theft of homes from people who owe no voluntary mortgage, but who may be unable, due to the expanding greed of local government, to pay the extortionist and confiscatory taxes. No moral law enforcement officer should obey an order to remove an otherwise moral and law-abiding family from their rightfully owned home for inability to pay property taxes. This should be a fundamental part of the Oath Keeper’s pledge. Property and security in one’s home is a FUNDAMENTAL American right.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Diane

The article is out dated but the point is still the same. Would you rather earn .0001% with your money in a savings account or escrow it with the bank and earn 0%? Something is better than nothing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Diane</p>
<p>The article is out dated but the point is still the same. Would you rather earn .0001% with your money in a savings account or escrow it with the bank and earn 0%? Something is better than nothing.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Kevin

Can you find info on the federal regulation? I could not find it. 

There is no such as a no closing cost loan. If the company is paying for you to relocate then they are assuming your costs. Hence, costs.</description>
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<p>Can you find info on the federal regulation? I could not find it. </p>
<p>There is no such as a no closing cost loan. If the company is paying for you to relocate then they are assuming your costs. Hence, costs.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin nelson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin nelson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 07:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone with several years processing and underwriting mortgage loans, I must say you make some valid points. However, there are a couple errors in your posting I need to adress...         1. There are federal regulations that regulate mortgage companies from earning interest on borrowers escrow accounts. Most mortgage companies are forbidden by law from earning ANY interest on a borrowers escrow fund. Mortgage companies are also required to give the borrower an aggregate adjustment for any extra monies in the escrow account once the tax insr bills are paid.                                                                                                                                           2. There ARE such things as &quot;no closing cost mortgages&quot;. Relocation loans (a special type of loan where a borrower is moving from one company location to another) offer borrowers the benefit of a direct bill credit. This means the borrowers closing costs will (most of the time) be completly paid for by the relocation company.                                                                               The best point made in your post though is that it would be greatly beneficial for the borrower to set up their own investment account to put their own escrow payments in, allowing them to earn some interest on their own money. The fact remains though that a majority of borrowers chose to set up an escrow account for the convenience of it and nothing else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone with several years processing and underwriting mortgage loans, I must say you make some valid points. However, there are a couple errors in your posting I need to adress&#8230;         1. There are federal regulations that regulate mortgage companies from earning interest on borrowers escrow accounts. Most mortgage companies are forbidden by law from earning ANY interest on a borrowers escrow fund. Mortgage companies are also required to give the borrower an aggregate adjustment for any extra monies in the escrow account once the tax insr bills are paid.                                                                                                                                           2. There ARE such things as &#8220;no closing cost mortgages&#8221;. Relocation loans (a special type of loan where a borrower is moving from one company location to another) offer borrowers the benefit of a direct bill credit. This means the borrowers closing costs will (most of the time) be completly paid for by the relocation company.                                                                               The best point made in your post though is that it would be greatly beneficial for the borrower to set up their own investment account to put their own escrow payments in, allowing them to earn some interest on their own money. The fact remains though that a majority of borrowers chose to set up an escrow account for the convenience of it and nothing else.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diane H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 20:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this article is way outdated, here on planet earth, USA banks are barely paying 0.1% interest, so how much really are you giving  those terry nickell diming banks?  better off to ban the beefsteak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this article is way outdated, here on planet earth, USA banks are barely paying 0.1% interest, so how much really are you giving  those terry nickell diming banks?  better off to ban the beefsteak.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 16:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ WTF

Just one person here. I am all for eliminating Social Security with holding or at least giving people the chance to remove themselves from the program. Did you know that social security is bankrupting the U.S future and is one of the biggest ponzi schemes of all time? I got a letter last year from the social security administration saying that they will be bankrupt by 2029. Why would I want to pay into that?
Interest is earned for the company, not you in a escrow account. I agree that it is for some but if you can budget you can earn more money by keeping it in savings accounts at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ WTF</p>
<p>Just one person here. I am all for eliminating Social Security with holding or at least giving people the chance to remove themselves from the program. Did you know that social security is bankrupting the U.S future and is one of the biggest ponzi schemes of all time? I got a letter last year from the social security administration saying that they will be bankrupt by 2029. Why would I want to pay into that?<br />
Interest is earned for the company, not you in a escrow account. I agree that it is for some but if you can budget you can earn more money by keeping it in savings accounts at least.</p>
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